Chloe Zhao wants the Eternals to return to the MCU: “I would love to bring them back and have more discussion about the world we live in. I’m really proud of it.”
Does anyone besides the comic book audience and MCU audience even remember these characters at all?
unretro2025-11-23 17:30
Why would non comic book readers and non mcu audience know about this movie?
splatomat2025-11-23 17:43
Do you remember the main characters of Sound of Music? No Country for Old Men? Die Hard?
None of those movies had a built-in audience that knew the characters beforehand yet they all had characters memorable for years and decades.
Grayx_28872025-11-23 18:05
True, but the difference is that those movies were followed up by decent writing. But the Eternals?! I can only remember the background settings and the visuals. But I can't even remember the characters aside from the ones played by Angelina Jolie and Selma Hayek. It's like I just didn't care about them at all. Even if they did get a follow-up in the MCU, I'm still not going to remember about them unless they hire better writers and maybe have the director of the first movie be created as one of the executive producers and get a different director for the sequel.
Poku1152025-11-23 17:44
The ga, the audience marvel is actively looking to get back. Knew about the gog after the movie.
chewywheat2025-11-23 17:50
The comment is weird. It’s like saying if you don’t know a character, why don’t you remember them? Haha.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-11-23 17:54
They know about Iron Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Deadpool, Groot, etc...
Some characters are iconic and part of pop culture even for non-fans. The Eternals are not it. I guess that's the point the user above was making.
Grayx_28872025-11-23 17:57
If you actually remember the first movie (which I highly doubt that anyone else has). I still remember Captain America: Brave New World, the Thunderbolts/New Avengers, and Fantastic Four: First Steps. I remember Shang-Chi, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, and yes, I even remember Thor: Love and Thunder **uuggghh!!** But the Eternals?! Ask me anything about these characters, and I'm still gonna be like...
GregorSamsaa2025-11-23 17:35
lol what?
You eliminated everyone that could possibly know about these characters and then asked if anyone else would know them as if you were making a point?
iamnotexactlywhite2025-11-23 17:39
“would someone that never watched the movie, nor read the comics even know who they are?”
Poku1152025-11-23 17:45
Except you could ask that of the avengers or the gog and get a yes.
Not of the eternals or thunderbolts
smileymn2025-11-23 17:32
I loved it, this was the wake up call for me to realize how much I disagreed with internet reviews. I still think it’s one of the best MCU films since Endgame, left me speechless after seeing it in theaters. I am hoping for a follow up!
Icy_Flight_79282025-11-23 17:36
Could not agree more, this movie also made me sadly realize that MCU fans only want the MCU formula but they don’t want movies to feel like the MCU formula. Eternals was so original and gave you time to understand each characters motivations. Outside of covid I always ask myself why this movie failed and I really think the fact that the X gene wasn’t involved and didn’t have the best villain involved really killed this movie
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:41
It crammed ten main characters into two hours. How in the hell is that enough time to understand any? Like everyone said, it should’ve been a show.
Icy_Flight_79282025-11-23 17:56
We can agree to disagree but i think the fleshed out motivations with those 10 characters better than they did with any character in the new Cap or almost any other MCU project. The were individual characters but all from the same family and origin so I think they shared a lot of similarities which allowed the director to not have to flesh out as much as people would like. I’m not saying it’s a perfect movie but I think it is far better than most MCU movies. It’s the only one that truly feels different besides the Avengers movies
DJfunkyPuddle2025-11-23 18:29
My wife and I didn't have any issues following the characters'motivations, I dunno maybe we just paid attention?
crazyguyunderthedesk2025-11-23 17:51
I think the lesson Marvel should have walked away with here, is that they don't need to stop making movies like this, but they need to find a way of making them for a LOT less money.
I love my marvel big action blockbuster spectacle as much as anyone, but eternals could have been done for a lot less. Don't think they're interested in going that direction though.
Icy_Flight_79282025-11-23 17:57
Absolutely, this is a great take on it
garythekid2025-11-23 17:36
It was definitely one of Marvel better movies over the past 5 years.. Didn't really understand the hate either.
MissingLink1012025-11-23 17:40
It feels like it came out so much longer ago than 2021
AsteroidMike2025-11-23 17:42
4 years does seem like an eternity when there isn’t a major showing or display of them being referenced until Brave New World earlier this year.
harmoniaatlast2025-11-23 17:48
Its so dumb and weird that no Eternals are in that movie either
legion_XXX2025-11-23 17:38
It didnt tie anything together and left plot holes for main characters like thanos, the celestials, and jon snow.
pragmaticzach2025-11-23 17:41
What plot holes and what were you expecting to be tied together?
harmoniaatlast2025-11-23 17:47
Theres a big difference between plot holes and unresolved threads. Thanos, Black Knight, and the broader sense of Celestials are not plot holes. Those are things mentioned but aren't central to THIS story.
We need to stop calling everything that isn't explained at length a plothole
moviesncheese2025-11-23 17:39
It feels like a masterpiece or mess situation... you either respect it's ambition or hate it for its messiness. I loved it personally.
ajp882025-11-23 17:46
I understand why it failed (brand new, unknown characters, mass ensemble movie, etc), but Eternals is a really unique and special MCU movie. The characters deserve to come back
JakiStow2025-11-23 17:46
People complained about the "MCU formula", then shat on the one movie that did things differently. Of course Marvel would instantly go back to the formula after that.
It's that meme about going out of your comfort zone and getting punched in the face for it, then never going out again.
frezz2025-11-23 17:56
Even though I don't like the movie, I respect what eternals tried to do..unlike some of the other recent MCU movies that just weren't good and also stuck to the formula
JyconX2025-11-23 18:01
Yeah, people who complain about things like that are kinda hypocrites.
zenlume2025-11-23 18:07
Funnily enough it's not even the worst audience rated MCU movie on RT.
The RT Audience thinks it's better than:
Captain America: Brave New World and The First Avenger, All the Thor movies except Ragnarok, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2 and Captain Marvel
igby12025-11-23 18:48
I agree with that.
But the problem is I still can’t name one character in the Eternals movie.
Granted it’s been a bit since I’ve seen it.
But still us casual superhero movie goers don’t know the Eternals very well even after watching the film.
RantRanger2025-11-23 19:01
The film introduced 10 main heroes all at once, plus a side character (Black Knight).
It was an enormously complex challenge that they took on... to encapsulate a long running ensemble of comic series all in a single movie with no lead-in films to introduce the characters. And, admirably, they tried to give everyone significant roles - so in the end, nobody could really get much in the way of screen time.
Most Marvel films are about 1 character and 1 villain (with maybe 2 supporting characters)... And that main character's name is in the title of the movie.
These guys need and deserve another film just to really flesh them out. I was intrigued by the introduction of Eros and Pip at the end. A sequel could afford to be more personable. It would be neat to learn more about who Thanos was. And the intrigue around an Eternals rebellion movement against the Celestials would be a fascinating story arc.
This first film was a spectacular effort though. Too bad not everyone appreciated it so much.
CaptHayfever2025-11-24 09:29
Don't forget that Captain Marvel's popcornmeter score will forever need a giant freaking asterisk on it.
Business_Barber_36112025-11-24 18:00
Same with BNW
NepheliLouxWarrior2025-11-23 18:28
When your movie sucks of course people will shit on it for doing things differently. Why do you think that a film should get points for being different when the execution sucks?
NippleFlicks2025-11-23 17:49
This might be the wrong way to describe it, but in some ways it felt more grounded to me. It’s also one of my favourites and I’d be very happy to see them return.
Franken_Frank2025-11-23 17:51
Same. This one really stood out post-Endgame. It's unique, creative and captivating, the most out of MCU to me. I genuinely liked it the most of the Multiverse phase
NumbN00ts2025-11-23 17:56
Eh, I’ve been a defender of the post End Game content, but the Eternals was a stinker. I wish they had the foresight to make it into one of the D+ series. I seriously would love to see that super long extended cut for a better result. Maybe switch it out with Falcon and Winter Soldier which also suffered from pacing issues but in the other direction.
The Eternals actually has me scared for what they’ll do with X-men when they finally get around to it. Similar big ensemble cast. We’ve seen X-men work on the big screen before and also suck on the big screen before. Add in the world building for a group like X-men considering they haven’t existed in mainline MCU, and it’s going to be another long movie that could botch the pacing trying to tell a good story.
jmptx2025-11-23 18:23
Agreed. They completely botched the characters. Sersi and Ikaris are the most interesting characters and the director did an absolute disservice to both.
Wooden_Network82872025-11-23 17:56
'Icarus' literally flew into the sun lol I'm sorry you can't get much dumber or on the nose than that
Shit was absolute agony to watch man. I'm sorry
Mike-Hunt-Amos-Prime2025-11-23 17:59
I felt like I was watching my highschool bullies dress up for Comic Con because it was suddenly popular.
Wooden_Network82872025-11-23 18:03
God for real. It really feels like the goal of that writing room was to make something as painfully long and boring as possible
Summoarpleaz2025-11-23 17:58
Yeah for me it was kinda weird to see how much hate the movie got. Like I understand the critique that we don’t get enough development in every character, but it took such a different approach from the rest of the MCU I personally enjoyed it.
cobaltaureus2025-11-23 18:00
Yeah I saw it with a good buddy of mine and we loved it. To each their own taste I suppose
LuckyPlaze2025-11-23 18:09
I totally agree. It’s easily one of the best films since Endgame. A lot of it has to do with using real locations and her beautiful cinematography. Plus the fact that the script deviated a bit from the formula and the characters had motivations and personalities that mattered.
It just had the unfortunate timing of releasing shortly after Endgame and so wasn’t up to unrealistic high bar of expectations.
JRHThreeFour2025-11-23 18:32
Its got its flaws, but Eternals was visually really impressive and trying something new is definitely commendable.
I loved finally seeing Celestials in the MCU.
PepperMintGumboDrop2025-11-23 20:15
This movie was so soulful…I enjoyed it so much…a breath of fresh air.
joseph4th2025-11-23 20:28
I liked that it felt very different than the formulaic MCU movies we were getting. The only thing I really didn’t like was some of scenes had really flat and bad lighting.
softysoaps2025-11-24 01:03
While it’s not my favorite. It’s high up there - I agree with you. This and The Marvels made me realize how much I cannot rely on fan reviews and opinions.
Sharkbait_O_aha2025-11-24 05:02
Facts, this movie was so good
eBICgamer20102025-11-23 17:32
No thanks.
After Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Eternals, Marvel should really be wary of Searchlight Pictures and its alumnis.
Edit: people here are weirdly defensive about directors who crumbled under big studio filmmaking system.
monitoring272025-11-23 17:41
🤡
GregorSamsaa2025-11-23 17:36
One of the best movies post end game. I got that Winter Soldier vibe of “this is just a solid movie that could exist outside the MCU all on its own”
smileymn2025-11-23 17:49
Exactly
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:56
It’s a misunderstood entry. People moaned for them to do things differently, and they did but people went on pointing out how they should’ve done it in the old ways anyway
HUGO-THE-BEAR2025-11-23 17:36
Watched it again recently, it was pretty good compared to a lot of what they put out recently. I really really want to see more Kingo out of any of them though.
These_Wish_51012025-11-23 17:43
The character who abandoned the team and was cool with the world getting destroyed?
ashleychurcher2025-11-23 17:48
Yeah that one
HUGO-THE-BEAR2025-11-23 18:03
Yeah, he was fun.
iamnotexactlywhite2025-11-23 17:38
i liked the movie, but it was way too long and way too short if that makes sense? some parts were super boring, but most of it was really cool
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:51
Almost like it should’ve been a show
disneylegospider12025-11-23 17:53
Then the visual budget would’ve been slashed, lol.
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:54
Story is more important.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:53
So another D+ MCU show that’s essentially a 5hr movie cut into clips to make episodes, dropping weekly? No thanks.
It should’ve been a show, I agree. But they clearly refuse to lean into the format completely. People have an idealized version of Eternals as a show that sadly wouldn’t get made.
AzureNinja2025-11-23 19:07
Should've split the movie into two. Before and after the snap.
therealgerrygergich2025-11-23 20:40
Yeah, I would've loved to see a 10-episode series, with each episode highlighting a different Eternal, and maybe an eleventh one to cap it all off. But I don't think that ever would've happened.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:55
They should’ve just let it be 3hrs. We’d at least get a slow but complete movie.
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:39
It sucked. Kro was wasted, Druig was clearly practicing eugenics, making Kingo Indian instead of Japanese was nonsensical with how they brought up Hiroshima.
Edit: Also the costumes were horrible. They talked constantly about Kirby in the lead up, but the costumes looked nothing like his style.
samathy2025-11-23 17:40
Kieron Gillen’s 2021 run on Eternals is incredible and totally should be adapted eventually imo, even if they have to change some things to make it fit the MCU (>! Thanos !<)
YemethTheSorcerer2025-11-23 17:57
This is exactly the thing, Eternals has a lot of admirable qualities but it also, and I felt this since I first saw it, has a truly dreadful screenplay. I don’t know if it was too many cooks in the kitchen or what, but far too much exposition and some very stiff dialogue, not nearly enough character development with this new crew, and a meandering plot that tries to cover too much.
I don’t know what happened during the script writing phase but that was a mess.
Zhao’s direction however was largely on point. It is possibly the most beautiful-looking out of all the MCU movies, other than maybe the first Guardians, and it has among the best fight scenes, which is extra impressive given Zhao’s background in independent dramas.
tom-of-the-nora2025-11-23 18:40
Should have been a show.
2 hours for 7 characters. No way it would work without rushing it.
The avengers built up those characters over 5 movies.
The eternals tried to establish everyone in an hour.
I_miss_your_mommy2025-11-23 19:05
2 hours for 7 characters in a story that unfolded over all of human history. That's... just too much for a single movie to do well, and even still I don't hate it.
Less-Tax56372025-11-23 19:18
I feel like points like this get repeated ad nauseum, and yknow until this moment I typically agree with them, but a thought has struck me:
Have we all seen… other movies? Like non superhero movies?
Films with similar runtimes and ensemble casts manage to establish all of their characters literally all the time. Not every single movie, but frequently enough that this isn’t some rarity. Sometimes a character can feel like the single largest standout in a complex script despite having screentime in the low double digits of minutes*.
Maybe multiplying the total amount of content runtime isn’t always the answer. Maybe just writing a good script can get the job done. It’s not like we needed every single Eternal to have the same amount of depth as the main character of a HBO drama after 5 seasons.
jeno_aran2025-11-23 19:21
Not disagreeing but you have an example of the other movies?
Less-Tax56372025-11-23 19:25
You need me to provide an example of a movie with 7 good characters?
sdjungelskogh2025-11-23 20:03
seven samurais
Less-Tax56372025-11-23 20:05
I’ll do you one better: Hateful Eight 🤯🤯🤯
robodrew2025-11-23 19:45
Fellowship of the Rings for one
Dezbats2025-11-23 22:22
That was 3 hours.
robodrew2025-11-24 16:44
Eternals was 2h:36m. You think that extra 24 minutes was that crucial?
Crimkam2025-11-23 20:21
Gaurdians of the Galaxy
Knives Out
Oceans 11
Lord of the Rings
Dazed and Confused
Inception
X-Men
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Pulp Fiction
Fast Times
Galaxy Quest
AnOnlineHandle2025-11-23 22:41
Watchmen as well. Introduced a huge complex history with the characters along with making them all feel like unique superheroes in the space of a single movie. And even more than that, it was a history across multiple generations of superheroes.
SailorET2025-11-24 14:46
I'd debate this one. There's enough background given to move the plot along, but how much information did they really give about the characters outside of Rorschach and Dr Manhattan? Nite Owl II is a Batman expy, both Silk Spectres are basically The Love Interest who have also worked as crime fighting vigilantes, Comedian is Frank Castle with a little Joker flavoring and Veidt doesn't really get any character until his villain reveal.
They're all surface level characters with implied depth that is never actually explored. It's an ambitious movie and does decently with the runtime (especially the opening sequence giving a huge exposition using no dialogue or narration) but I'd argue it's not better than Eternals at character development.
Peter-Tao2025-11-23 20:23
Dune 2. The guy that Paul fight at the end has extremely low screentime but huuuuuge presence. Smae guy that play Superman's enemy.
Sorry too sleepy to remember either of the characters name lol
somesnarkycomments2025-11-23 19:12
I feel like that was at least part of what killed a lot of the movies that really didn't work out post Phase 3. Eternals could have been amazing as a 10 episode season with a different character explored in each episode - and then have the team up movie to cover the Celestial on Earth. Same with Thor L&T, six or eight one-hour episodes for Gorr butchering gods and causing havoc, and then have the movie feel not so crammed. I mean, you'd still have to blow up Secret Invasion and start over, but you could fix a lot.
Kenshin2002025-11-23 19:57
I don’t know, Guardians of the Galaxy was able to introduce a large cast in a two hour movie pretty well
_Peener_2025-11-23 20:10
Xmen did it
Crimkam2025-11-23 20:14
Guardians of the Galaxy has 7 characters and it isn’t a show. Plenty of movies have ensemble casts and do just fine.
sirtubbs2025-11-24 01:04
I think a big part of it is that these characters have been alive doing things for centuries. Their back stories have back stories. We're just dropped in at their final chapter. There is so much to tell and we got none of it.
Crimkam2025-11-24 01:44
We never see any character’s whole life in any movie, well the vast majority anyway. Most of the eras they live through are just a backdrop for their interpersonal relationships anyway. The script didn’t lend itself well to interesting characterization, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be done, or that other movies haven’t achieved something similar.
Wooden-Radish-90082025-11-24 02:03
Agreed. This has always been such a weird complaint to me. Ensemble movies are very popular and have been forever.
People will sit here and say "Eternals should have been a show there's too many characters" and "when are we getting an X-Men movie?" In the same breath.
AntonChigurh89332025-11-23 21:21
Definitely, it would've been cool with each episode. Takes you to different timelines. By mid to late episodes. We get to the invasion of Mesmoamerica.
The budget would've been too much. Trying to contract Angelina Jolie and Hayek.
AlleRacing2025-11-23 23:27
Why the fuck does anyone believe or regurgitate this absolutely hollow point? Plenty of singular movies have introduced large casts without much fuss. Second, it's one of the longest movies in the MCU, at 2h35m, which is a hefty span of time.
harmoniaatlast2025-11-23 18:00
They wouldn't have to change much honestly. (>! Thanos !<) characterization would change a little, especially in terms of violence. But other than, it'd just be about packing things up to an ending.
The Avengers have to be in it, the X-Men not so much but I think brief appearances are more than enough unless we really follow up on Druig. That'd make this kinda a 2 parter.
(>! Thanos is back, and the Avengers, Eternals, and the X-Men are gonna have to chop his head off once again. But this time, he'll just come back.... they'll need to do more than simply go for the head. !<)
slinky3172025-11-23 18:27
We don't need that character back. There are a ton of interesting bad guys Marvel can choose from, we don't need to reuse old ones.
harmoniaatlast2025-11-23 18:46
Its a completely different kind of story, and it'd add a new (to the MCU) dimension to the character. This is not a "Palpatine somehow returned" kind of thing
ScaredFamousfan2025-11-23 17:40
Oh if she wants to come back and make it for 100 million then they should do it
Square_Theme_87662025-11-23 17:41
It really should’ve been a TV series. There was too much going on in the story for me to really understand what was happening half of the time.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:59
It should’ve. If it were made by HBO. D+ obviously refused to lean into the format by choosing to
Make 5hr films split into bite sized pieces dropping weekly to “make” a tv show.
Square_Theme_87662025-11-23 18:03
Some projects work better as tv shows. Do you really think something like WandaVision or Loki would have worked as movies?
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 18:07
Not at all. If anything they’re among the handful bests. My comment wasn’t about the IP being tv shows worthy? It’s about the format of TV itself and where Marvel stands with how they make their “tv shows”
Square_Theme_87662025-11-23 18:12
Oh, you mean that whole “Disney makes their TV shows too ‘cinematic’ looking” argument? So long as the stuff they make is good and we don’t get another Secret Invasion situation, I don’t really care how it looks.
AsteroidMike2025-11-23 17:41
This was playing on TNT Friday night and I just want to see more of them on the screen again, Kingo in particular.
Stunning_Ad32732025-11-23 17:42
I too, would love a million $$ paycheque
waaay2dumb2live2025-11-23 17:42
Should have been a series. It was rushed and did not develop most of the characters well (if at all).
Poku1152025-11-23 17:43
Her and about one dozen people.
Good riddance I say
xxRonzillaxx2025-11-23 17:43
It was such a good movie with a great cast. I dont know how it could just be forgotten about when they should have been involved in every project
SP15702025-11-23 17:44
Eternals was good...but tried to achieve too much into a single movie.
I also assume it would have been a much much better watch in cinemas, but given the pandemic I (and I guess many others) missed out
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:58
They did say they wanted to do things differently. Whether they failed or not is another topic.
Lego8122025-11-23 19:56
Visually it was stunning on the big screen
lmpetuslmperaIOI2025-11-23 23:16
Absolutely, I’m wondering whether that’s why I found it amazing and why others didn’t. The cinematography was and visuals were majestic on the big screen.
DavidBHimself2025-11-24 01:53
I got to see it on a big screen, and it's the most beautiful Marvel movie.
(Despite their qualities, cinematography is not necessarily the strong point of all the other movies)
HowardBunnyColvin2025-11-23 17:45
idc what anyone say that was a solid film
Make_it_Raines2025-11-23 17:45
The movie was a hit, saw it 3x in theaters and it really made me mad the discord surrounding it. Never understood how others viewed the film so negatively. It was/is so different from anything Marvel had put out before.. beautiful and thought provoking. I was very discouraged around that time and shortly after knowing we would probably never get the second half of the story. I don’t blame the cast for also being depressed after its release, I still don’t understand the hate still to this day
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:52
It was a bomb
zenlume2025-11-23 17:59
It wasn't a hit in any sense of the word.
It broke even at best at the box office, it was hated by critics and hated slightly less by the general audience.
culturedgoat2025-11-23 18:40
Dude it was hot garbage
zeromavs2025-11-23 17:46
One of the best mcu movies ngl. Definitely the best looking mcu film
LeggoMahLegolas2025-11-23 17:47
Still wished that the Eternals was a mini-series rather than a movie...
Blueblur12025-11-23 17:48
I really enjoyed it because it was different. It had its faults - Kro was utterly wasted, Gemma and Richard didn't have chemistry - but it was a fun movie. And I really liked how different iterations/appearances of the Eternals were adapted for this.
fistkick182025-11-23 21:15
> Gemma and Richard didn't have chemistry
Almost like that was intentional, for you to question his intentions. They show him going to Thena first, who turns him down.
This is evidenced by the fact that Druig and Makkari's relationship was NOT in the script, and was added DUE to their great chemistry. I believe if the director can see what is up in reality, they didn't make a mistake. We aren't supposed to want them to be together. They're not supposed to be believable.
But yeah Kro was utterly wasted and I have no response to that. Did not like what they did with the deviants.
hamsolo192025-11-23 17:48
I think it would make for an epic TV show. You could showcase so many different time periods and eras and events, could be really cool.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 18:00
It would’ve been MCU’s own Game Of Thrones tbh. Sadly we saw how they do tv shows. They knew they cant afford it. If we were lucky, it wouldve been the movie we got extended and chopped into parts to make a show instead.
HammurabiDion2025-11-23 17:48
Did not like the costumes much but I really enjoyed the movie.
The action is underrated as hell and the cosmic mythology of the mcu was getting more and more interesting
Myhtological2025-11-23 17:53
Most anti Kirby costumes when they hyped the shit out of Kirby for it
HammurabiDion2025-11-23 18:14
Yesh they were just bland
Admittedly I'm not super into their comic costumes either but they looked like they'd be right at hone with any HBO, fx, or starz fantasy show
There was nothing special about them
Adorable_Ad_34782025-11-23 17:50
The Eternals should return in an animated show. Each episode from a different POV and with a distinct visual style (no more What If/Zombies style), some episodes are 3D, other episodes 2D.
Hire voice actors if the live action actors are too expensive to justify the costs. Animation is the perfect way to show grandiose scenes on a low budget.
TrunksDash2025-11-23 17:52
One of the only Marvel movies after Endgame that I distinctly remember. I really liked it. It's a shame we probably won't see those characters (and the seeds planted for others) again.
MrKevora2025-11-23 17:52
The movie was too long and the pacing suffered for it, but I still enjoyed it and want to see at least some of the characters make a return.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-23 17:53
Yes. Theres alot of room for improvement. Keep Chloe as she is the heart of what makes the corner special.
I believe Feige wants to do it too. He wanted to do Eternals 2 but Iger was the roadblock. I believe he’ll pursue it once he steps down. Alot of people are already marking them as completely forgotten. I say be ready to be surprised.
SeekerVash2025-11-23 19:13
Feige likely isn't going to be there when Iger steps down. His track record post Endgame is horrible, and if Doomsday flops, he's out.
AlphaBaymax2025-11-23 21:52
I guarantee you that the critical acclaim of Hamnet is going to get Kevin Feige interested in talking to Chloe Zhao, again. Just replace the Firpo's with new writers and Eternals 2 will be a banger!
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-24 06:45
As a matter of fact I dont think Hamnet’s acclaim is needed. Feige’s proud of Eternals and believed immensely in it and in her. So much so he gave her control. He also wanted the sequel done.
Though if they needed anymore reason to give Chloe another shot then yes Hamnet’s success is a good one!
CaptHayfever2025-11-24 09:55
Something important to remember when dealing with SeekerVash is that he's lying:
> 5 out of the last 6 movies flopped or bombed.
This isn't true. The last 6 movies include Guardians 3, Deadpool & Wolverine, and First Steps, all of which were profitable (2 of them *very much* so).
> Of the last 8 TV shows, 5 flopped or bombed, and another is extremely controversial at best.
This isn't true. The last 8 shows include:
* Zombies, which was the most watched show on Disney+ globally for its first 2 weeks after a full-season drop.
* Ironheart, which was in the top 10 of *all* streaming original series for 3 weeks, despite only being released fresh for 2 weeks.
* Born Again, which Nielsen cites as one of the most popular shows of the 24-25 TV season.
* Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, which was in the top 10 among all streaming shows in the last few weeks of its season.
* Agatha All Along, which had such a high viewership-to-budget ratio that it effectively became profitable in week *2*.
That's 5 that *didn't* flop, not 5 that did. (Also, I can't even find viewership data for What If season 3, so anybody claiming to know how it performed is just guessing.)
> In fact, the major successes post-endgame are Doctor Strange 2 (Feige), Spiderman (Sony), Guardians 3 (Gunn), and Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds). Feige has only one success story post Endgame in theaters.
This isn't true. For one thing, Feige worked on Spider-Man, Guardians, and Deadpool too. And also, those aren't the only financial successes; Shang-Chi, Love & Thunder, Wakanda Forever, and First Steps were major successes as well.
I'd say all this directly to him, but he blocked me for saying all this directly to him every time he repeats his lies.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-24 10:09
Wow lmao. Sounds like he’a a serial. He’s downvoted to hell for good reason.
Let me copy this for him, Just to share a message ;)
CaptHayfever2025-11-24 10:17
Don't mention me. He reports me for incivility when he finds out I'm around debunking him.
TheJack0fDiamonds2025-11-24 10:32
Yeah i didnt. I just copied your message is all and said its a message from someone he might know lmao
spidervenom6192025-11-24 23:30
Oh so he was the one that probably got my brother banned lol, that's make sense lol.
TheMikey22072025-11-23 17:54
People just weren’t ready for it.
We just had Endgame not long ago and then we had this new team of superhero’s while people were still missing the Avengers.
The Eternals really isn’t that bad and the cast they got for it was really solid and they set up some really interesting future plans (except Harry Styles) like Dane having the Ebony Blade and becoming The Black Knight and Arishem taking Sersi, Phastos, and Kingo.
There’s still so much story left to explore. Hopefully she gets the chance to explore it and prove the naysayers wrong.
IsamuAlvaDyson2025-11-23 17:54
It was boring
A great cast was wasted on a bad script
ayoungad2025-11-23 17:55
I would like to get paid to act more
Mike-Hunt-Amos-Prime2025-11-23 17:57
No thanks
kevinlienus2025-11-23 17:57
I hope she does, it was the last MCU movie to give a fuck
Hrothgar_unbound2025-11-23 18:02
The Eternals dialog was so poorly written, or perhaps the acting, or both, but, my god, it was a bummer because I would have liked to see what Marvel could do with these characters.
shumingliu0012025-11-23 18:02
Oh hell no
HellaWavy2025-11-23 18:02
*Eternals* alongside *Multiverse of Madness* are among my fave MCU flicks. People always bitch about Marvel not letting directors do their own thing and when we actually get movies with distinct styles, people are still not happy.
It‘s a gorgeous and mostly self contained movie and I‘d love for the characters to return some day. And while we‘re at it, please let Raimi direct DS3.
Dbonker2025-11-23 18:04
Arishem comes back to Earth to render his Judgement. The Eternal's recruit all of Earth's 616 superheros to fight him. In the end the F4 bring back Galactus and he fights Arishem and transfer his curse to him.
That should be the 2nd Eternal's movie :P
0LoveAnonymous02025-11-23 18:06
I don't care what anybody says, Eternals is one of my all-time favourite Marvel movies. The shots alone were spectacular
Bearjupiter2025-11-23 18:10
While it is the best looking MCU movie - the basic story was a misstep
Really should have taken inspiration from the Gaiman run with the Eternals learning of their abilities, and heroes, only for the twist being that theyre really these celestial robots
BeezNest962025-11-23 18:12
Actress wants the character she plays to return to the MCU. Surprise.
Darksol5032025-11-23 18:14
Ya know… they could have done a trilogy, with them exploring different parts of the current MCU and having each character fleshed out… but no… for some reason we didn’t revisit them… like ever…
FUCK1NGFABULOUS2025-11-23 18:16
Everyone will be back.
Responsible_Egg75192025-11-23 18:18
I loved Druig and Makkari. They we adorable together
KB_Sez2025-11-23 18:19
I will say what I always say:
It was a beautiful film, filled with beautiful people with a love triangle at the center made up of people who had absolutely ZERO chemistry together and in the end no one cared about it and the characters.
Just let it go. Forget it.
stepharoony2025-11-23 18:47
100% correct.
jhoeksma12025-11-23 18:21
nah
NepheliLouxWarrior2025-11-23 18:27
Should have made a better film than Chloe. I say that as someone who someone enjoyed the movie despite its problems.
MrAngryPineapple2025-11-23 18:36
One of the most beautiful looking movies. It just felt too long and too short at the same time
Master-Mage872025-11-23 18:37
Ms Marvel should have gotten a season 2. I would have kept that Kamala Khan was an Inhuman and reintroduce the Eternals through this show. Basically do what the Avengers game did with her. That is how I would have done a continuation for the Eternals
PaymentTurbulent1932025-11-23 18:38
I'd love to see them come back! Never got the hate for the movie and there's no such thing as bad superhero characters, just bad writing.
Johncurtisreeve2025-11-23 18:40
Same. It’s honestly in my top five favorite comic book movies of all time.
xylotism2025-11-23 18:41
Director/actor wants X to return is the laziest article in the world these days.
deathtech002025-11-23 18:45
Disney gauging social media for an Eternals response, lmao
SeekerVash2025-11-23 19:15
Disney cancelled the Eternals response a bit more than a year ago.
Ok_Employer78372025-11-23 18:52
I'd love that. The movie is very beautiful.
Eastern-Bluejay-89122025-11-23 18:56
My hope is for now, keep Eternals away. Post dooms day do 1 phase of reflection and then bring in Eternals to return in a phase 2.
No_Public_76772025-11-23 19:02
Lol no
EnzoMcFly_jr2025-11-23 19:14
I think people are slowly coming around on that movie. Its not perfect, but I think it’s a lot better than its reputation
KlausLoganWard2025-11-23 19:15
I hope they come back! I absolutely love the 1st one. Its Top MCU for me.
bythewayne2025-11-23 19:17
They're robots. They don't live
kmckenzie2562025-11-23 19:20
I’ll be honest, I really enjoyed Eternals. I know it got a lot of hate but I think it’s better than a number of other Marvel movies that have come out and were better received.
Holmcroft2025-11-23 19:23
I will always have a fondness for this movie, not least because it brought one of my favourite couples from the comics, Dane and Sersi, into the movies. Though I do wish they gave Sersi her personality from the comics.
I remember getting so excited by the post credits scene with the Ebony Blade, and in interviews where Zhao had a statue of the Black Knight behind her, and Nate Moore teased future developments - but I suspect we’re not going to get any of it now
Rare_Ad_38712025-11-23 19:35
I actually really liked this movie and it’s funny cause all the stuff people complain about regarding MCU movies, this movie felt like the polar opposite of that, and people still claimed it sucked.
j1h152332025-11-23 20:13
They absolutely need another one. Eternals was awesome
EndStorm2025-11-23 23:15
One of my favourite MCU films during the time it came out. It felt fresh and a bit more original. Maybe it was the setting or something. I wish it had received a sequel.
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None of those movies had a built-in audience that knew the characters beforehand yet they all had characters memorable for years and decades.
Some characters are iconic and part of pop culture even for non-fans. The Eternals are not it. I guess that's the point the user above was making.
You eliminated everyone that could possibly know about these characters and then asked if anyone else would know them as if you were making a point?
Not of the eternals or thunderbolts
I love my marvel big action blockbuster spectacle as much as anyone, but eternals could have been done for a lot less. Don't think they're interested in going that direction though.
We need to stop calling everything that isn't explained at length a plothole
It's that meme about going out of your comfort zone and getting punched in the face for it, then never going out again.
The RT Audience thinks it's better than:
Captain America: Brave New World and The First Avenger, All the Thor movies except Ragnarok, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2 and Captain Marvel
But the problem is I still can’t name one character in the Eternals movie.
Granted it’s been a bit since I’ve seen it.
But still us casual superhero movie goers don’t know the Eternals very well even after watching the film.
It was an enormously complex challenge that they took on... to encapsulate a long running ensemble of comic series all in a single movie with no lead-in films to introduce the characters. And, admirably, they tried to give everyone significant roles - so in the end, nobody could really get much in the way of screen time.
Most Marvel films are about 1 character and 1 villain (with maybe 2 supporting characters)... And that main character's name is in the title of the movie.
These guys need and deserve another film just to really flesh them out. I was intrigued by the introduction of Eros and Pip at the end. A sequel could afford to be more personable. It would be neat to learn more about who Thanos was. And the intrigue around an Eternals rebellion movement against the Celestials would be a fascinating story arc.
This first film was a spectacular effort though. Too bad not everyone appreciated it so much.
The Eternals actually has me scared for what they’ll do with X-men when they finally get around to it. Similar big ensemble cast. We’ve seen X-men work on the big screen before and also suck on the big screen before. Add in the world building for a group like X-men considering they haven’t existed in mainline MCU, and it’s going to be another long movie that could botch the pacing trying to tell a good story.
Shit was absolute agony to watch man. I'm sorry
It just had the unfortunate timing of releasing shortly after Endgame and so wasn’t up to unrealistic high bar of expectations.
I loved finally seeing Celestials in the MCU.
After Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Eternals, Marvel should really be wary of Searchlight Pictures and its alumnis.
Edit: people here are weirdly defensive about directors who crumbled under big studio filmmaking system.
It should’ve been a show, I agree. But they clearly refuse to lean into the format completely. People have an idealized version of Eternals as a show that sadly wouldn’t get made.
Edit: Also the costumes were horrible. They talked constantly about Kirby in the lead up, but the costumes looked nothing like his style.
I don’t know what happened during the script writing phase but that was a mess.
Zhao’s direction however was largely on point. It is possibly the most beautiful-looking out of all the MCU movies, other than maybe the first Guardians, and it has among the best fight scenes, which is extra impressive given Zhao’s background in independent dramas.
2 hours for 7 characters. No way it would work without rushing it.
The avengers built up those characters over 5 movies.
The eternals tried to establish everyone in an hour.
Have we all seen… other movies? Like non superhero movies?
Films with similar runtimes and ensemble casts manage to establish all of their characters literally all the time. Not every single movie, but frequently enough that this isn’t some rarity. Sometimes a character can feel like the single largest standout in a complex script despite having screentime in the low double digits of minutes*.
Maybe multiplying the total amount of content runtime isn’t always the answer. Maybe just writing a good script can get the job done. It’s not like we needed every single Eternal to have the same amount of depth as the main character of a HBO drama after 5 seasons.
Knives Out
Oceans 11
Lord of the Rings
Dazed and Confused
Inception
X-Men
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Pulp Fiction
Fast Times
Galaxy Quest
They're all surface level characters with implied depth that is never actually explored. It's an ambitious movie and does decently with the runtime (especially the opening sequence giving a huge exposition using no dialogue or narration) but I'd argue it's not better than Eternals at character development.
Sorry too sleepy to remember either of the characters name lol
People will sit here and say "Eternals should have been a show there's too many characters" and "when are we getting an X-Men movie?" In the same breath.
The budget would've been too much. Trying to contract Angelina Jolie and Hayek.
The Avengers have to be in it, the X-Men not so much but I think brief appearances are more than enough unless we really follow up on Druig. That'd make this kinda a 2 parter.
(>! Thanos is back, and the Avengers, Eternals, and the X-Men are gonna have to chop his head off once again. But this time, he'll just come back.... they'll need to do more than simply go for the head. !<)
Make 5hr films split into bite sized pieces dropping weekly to “make” a tv show.
Good riddance I say
I also assume it would have been a much much better watch in cinemas, but given the pandemic I (and I guess many others) missed out
(Despite their qualities, cinematography is not necessarily the strong point of all the other movies)
It broke even at best at the box office, it was hated by critics and hated slightly less by the general audience.
Almost like that was intentional, for you to question his intentions. They show him going to Thena first, who turns him down.
This is evidenced by the fact that Druig and Makkari's relationship was NOT in the script, and was added DUE to their great chemistry. I believe if the director can see what is up in reality, they didn't make a mistake. We aren't supposed to want them to be together. They're not supposed to be believable.
But yeah Kro was utterly wasted and I have no response to that. Did not like what they did with the deviants.
The action is underrated as hell and the cosmic mythology of the mcu was getting more and more interesting
Admittedly I'm not super into their comic costumes either but they looked like they'd be right at hone with any HBO, fx, or starz fantasy show
There was nothing special about them
Hire voice actors if the live action actors are too expensive to justify the costs. Animation is the perfect way to show grandiose scenes on a low budget.
I believe Feige wants to do it too. He wanted to do Eternals 2 but Iger was the roadblock. I believe he’ll pursue it once he steps down. Alot of people are already marking them as completely forgotten. I say be ready to be surprised.
Though if they needed anymore reason to give Chloe another shot then yes Hamnet’s success is a good one!
> 5 out of the last 6 movies flopped or bombed.
This isn't true. The last 6 movies include Guardians 3, Deadpool & Wolverine, and First Steps, all of which were profitable (2 of them *very much* so).
> Of the last 8 TV shows, 5 flopped or bombed, and another is extremely controversial at best.
This isn't true. The last 8 shows include:
* Zombies, which was the most watched show on Disney+ globally for its first 2 weeks after a full-season drop.
* Ironheart, which was in the top 10 of *all* streaming original series for 3 weeks, despite only being released fresh for 2 weeks.
* Born Again, which Nielsen cites as one of the most popular shows of the 24-25 TV season.
* Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, which was in the top 10 among all streaming shows in the last few weeks of its season.
* Agatha All Along, which had such a high viewership-to-budget ratio that it effectively became profitable in week *2*.
That's 5 that *didn't* flop, not 5 that did. (Also, I can't even find viewership data for What If season 3, so anybody claiming to know how it performed is just guessing.)
> In fact, the major successes post-endgame are Doctor Strange 2 (Feige), Spiderman (Sony), Guardians 3 (Gunn), and Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds). Feige has only one success story post Endgame in theaters.
This isn't true. For one thing, Feige worked on Spider-Man, Guardians, and Deadpool too. And also, those aren't the only financial successes; Shang-Chi, Love & Thunder, Wakanda Forever, and First Steps were major successes as well.
I'd say all this directly to him, but he blocked me for saying all this directly to him every time he repeats his lies.
Let me copy this for him, Just to share a message ;)
We just had Endgame not long ago and then we had this new team of superhero’s while people were still missing the Avengers.
The Eternals really isn’t that bad and the cast they got for it was really solid and they set up some really interesting future plans (except Harry Styles) like Dane having the Ebony Blade and becoming The Black Knight and Arishem taking Sersi, Phastos, and Kingo.
There’s still so much story left to explore. Hopefully she gets the chance to explore it and prove the naysayers wrong.
A great cast was wasted on a bad script
It‘s a gorgeous and mostly self contained movie and I‘d love for the characters to return some day. And while we‘re at it, please let Raimi direct DS3.
That should be the 2nd Eternal's movie :P
Really should have taken inspiration from the Gaiman run with the Eternals learning of their abilities, and heroes, only for the twist being that theyre really these celestial robots
It was a beautiful film, filled with beautiful people with a love triangle at the center made up of people who had absolutely ZERO chemistry together and in the end no one cared about it and the characters.
Just let it go. Forget it.
I remember getting so excited by the post credits scene with the Ebony Blade, and in interviews where Zhao had a statue of the Black Knight behind her, and Nate Moore teased future developments - but I suspect we’re not going to get any of it now